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i think if a president could sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going to get this economy jump-started. we're going to open markets in trade in central and south america where we have real opportunities. but on the tax reform, i think it is important that he is pretty bold in his specifics in saying he is going to limit upper income people's ability to get all the deductions. but he is not going to do it on the middle class. i think he has been specific and i think that's just been kind of glossed over. >> let me fill in some blanks here. he has said he is going to get rid of the estate tax though and he has said that he is not going to raise the rate on nonincome from -- o
i think if a president could sign a law that said we will create more jobs that law would have been signed a long time ago. >> well i think he is looking at the fundamentals that are keeping people from hiring like the costs and taxes in obama care. like the over regulation that is stifling small business. like the constant talk of new taxes on small business. i think he is saying we're going to stop that. we're going to stop the over regulation. we're going to stop the taxes. we're going...
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sexually abused in that shower, he is trying to get some kind of protection under the whistleblower law. what's the latest there? >> yeah. he's suing penn state for $4 million because he thinks he was wrongfully terminated and didn't get the benefits he deserved and that he was treated improperly by the university. he reported up the chain, and we're talking about mike mcqueary, the former assistant coach, he reported to his svr, who was joe paterno who reported to their svrs. the argument from a lot of people, it's a very polarizing debate is at what point do you stop worrying about reporting to your supervisor and go straight to the police? >> mark brennan, thank you very much for reporting on the latest on what happened in that courtroom today. thank you. >>> up next, a "news nation" gut check. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yoel ellow, a menace to economy. >> this ad may be funny. is it making you think about romney's proposed cuts, or does it remind you of the president's debate performance? you can give us your gut on that, and you can join the "news nation" on facebook. we're at f
sexually abused in that shower, he is trying to get some kind of protection under the whistleblower law. what's the latest there? >> yeah. he's suing penn state for $4 million because he thinks he was wrongfully terminated and didn't get the benefits he deserved and that he was treated improperly by the university. he reported up the chain, and we're talking about mike mcqueary, the former assistant coach, he reported to his svr, who was joe paterno who reported to their svrs. the...
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law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s there this ruling is an icing or cherry on top. i don't think they would have won the state regardless, less likely today. >> and when you look at the fact that early voting is starting in ohio, iowa, all these states already voting, how does that affect the way the candidates are spending their time and money? >> you're actually seeing them literallies and president obama's rallies he had been going to in ohio last week, were all about getting the early vote out, making sure people were registered and saying hey, remember, folks
law in place for pennsylvania. and i think barring some change or data i've not seen, i'm not convinced pennsylvania was in play even if law had been upheld. i just don't think the votes add up for republicans in pennsylvania. i always say it's like charlie brown, lucy and the football. every time charlie brown tries to kick the football, lucy pulls it away. that's pennsylvania for republicans. look at the numbers and say theoretically we can get there but ultimately can never get there. s...
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it's law that just makes sense. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your life with personalized policies and discounts when you need them most. just call... and speak with a licensed representative about saving on your policy when you get married, move into a new house... [crash!] or add a car to your policy. don't forget to ask about saving up to 10% when you combine your auto and home insurance with liberty mutual. security, coverage, and savings. all the things humans need to make our beautifully imperfect world a little less imperfect. call... and lock in your rate for 12 months. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? for the spender who needs a little help saving. for adding "& sons." for the dreamer, planning an early escape. for the mother of the bride. for whoever you are, for whatever you're trying to achieve, pnc has technology, guidance, and over 150 years of experience to help you get there. ♪ >>>
it's law that just makes sense. humans -- sometimes life trips us up. and sometimes, we trip ourselves up, but that's okay. at liberty mutual insurance we can "untrip" you as you go through your life with personalized policies and discounts when you need them most. just call... and speak with a licensed representative about saving on your policy when you get married, move into a new house... [crash!] or add a car to your policy. don't forget to ask about saving up to 10% when you...
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i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear if you gave john mccain a dozen or more tax returns in order to be vetted for him, why wouldn't you give us those tax returns to vet you for the possible presidency. that's what i think the audience could follow. >> absolutely. i think that's what a lot of people are thinking. what is the big deal? why not just show us? and i also think it's a bit of malpractice the way his team has miscalculated how this story would play out. >> and paul ryan had to give ten years of his returns to romney. >> right. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up. the republican voter suppression strate
i would suggest to him or pose the question he sasz he's followed the law to the letter of the law in terms of paying his taxes, but so do the 47%. so why is it that it's okay for him but it's not okay for them. and i would also love to do a little comparison with how much money he's actually saved versus that 47% gets in that earned income tax credit and let's just compare who's really getting the sweeter deal there. >> i think if there's just one question, i guess i would like to hear...
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. >> we do have tough gun laws in massachusetts. i support them. i won't chip away at them. >> he did not. in 2004 governor romney signed the permanent assault weapons ban in massachusetts. then mitt romney decided to run for president. he started prepping himself for the republican presidential primary and then, of course, things got hilarious on the subject of guns. mr. romney said in a debate with "the boston globe," quote, i have a gun of my own. i go hunting myself. to which someone in the room replied, and i quote, excuse me, but isn't that your son josh's gun? yes, yes, it was. on the campaign trail, mr. romney touted it by saying he was a lifetime member of the nra. he would brag about that. that was sort of true. he joined the nra as a lifetime member in august 2006, just before announcing his presidential run. lifetime isn't the same thing as lifelong when it comes to membership in the nra. you too could become a member of the nra simply by giving them $1,000. when asked about his recent membership, mr. romney explained, q
. >> we do have tough gun laws in massachusetts. i support them. i won't chip away at them. >> he did not. in 2004 governor romney signed the permanent assault weapons ban in massachusetts. then mitt romney decided to run for president. he started prepping himself for the republican presidential primary and then, of course, things got hilarious on the subject of guns. mr. romney said in a debate with "the boston globe," quote, i have a gun of my own. i go hunting myself....
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but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said, if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seem to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. and that's because he knows full well that we don't want what he's been selling for the last year. so governor romney may dance around his positions, but if you want to be president, you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking to the middle class. that's the math. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round of budget-busting tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in edu
but the guy on stage last night, he said that he doesn't even know that there are such laws that encourage outsourcing. never heard of them. never heard of them. never heard of tax breaks for companies that ship jobs overseas. he said, if it's true, he must need a new accountant. now we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seem to be doing just fine with his current accountant. so you see, the man on stage last night he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt...
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that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking into the matter. the mechanics of the election are upon us now. this was ohio today. yes, those are tents. people were sleeping in them because early voting started in ohio today and people slept out to be first in line. is technically, he did quash it and this should ought to be the most important thing. the bottom line here, in pennsylvania is that as of this judge's ruling today, you do not have to have a driver's license or another form of government issued i.d. election and how it is run. and in some ways how the election is being run and how the campaign prepares for it looks a litt
that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking...
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law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's what the state of pennsylvania was telling people anyway as of yesterday afternoon on the phone line that the state was telling people to call if they had any questions or if they were at all confused about voting this year. so say anybody who doesn't have a driver's license and was calling the state to find out if they can vote, as of yesterday, that recording on the state's phone line for voting help was telling them, no, you can't vote, when, in fact, legally you can. ultimately when we question the state elections office about that yesterday afternoon they took down that recording. they said it was just an oversi
law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general election. all photo i.d.s must be current and contain an expiration date unless otherwise noted. >> so that was our scoop last night. our bad scoop. because what you just heard there from the state of pennsylvania is not the law. but it's what the state of pennsylvania was telling people anyway as of...
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since 2010 republicans have been passing law after law after law to limit your right to vote. voter i.d., voter registration, early voting. the republicans want less people voting in our democracy, not more. they're trying to roll back the clock on more than our century's worth of progress in civil rights. now the tide is turning. inch by inch, state by state, we've been reclaiming our rights and turning back the wave of voter suppression. we saw it when the justice department stepped in to block the laws in texas, south carolina and florida. we saw it when governors in six states all but one were democrats, vetoed voter i.d. laws. they were champions of democracy to do so. and we saw it when state and federal courts rejected laws in eight states, including today's major ruling in pennsylvania. this morning a judge blocked pennsylvania's controversial voter i.d. from going into effect before the november election. after it was revealed that hundreds of thousands of voters face the real pocket that they would not be allowed to vote. but now this unjust law will not be in effect
since 2010 republicans have been passing law after law after law to limit your right to vote. voter i.d., voter registration, early voting. the republicans want less people voting in our democracy, not more. they're trying to roll back the clock on more than our century's worth of progress in civil rights. now the tide is turning. inch by inch, state by state, we've been reclaiming our rights and turning back the wave of voter suppression. we saw it when the justice department stepped in to...
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that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking into the matter. the mechanics of the election are upon us now. this was ohio today. yes, those are tents. people were sleeping in because early in-person voting started in ohio today. first lady was in ohio today not just to persuade people and to inspire people to vote for her husband but to persuade them to do so right this second which people in ohio could do starting today. in most of the swing states, early voting is happening already. and yeah the campaigns are still trying to sway people and there's the debate tomorrow. but we are now into it. we are into the mechanics of the elec
that's not the law in pennsylvania. the law is you can show up even if you don't have this i.d. you're allowed to vote. they tried to change the law, they could not get away with it. what about that ad campaign? depending on how those conversations go, they may not have got wan with changing the law but it might work to keep the people without i.d.s away from the polling place. the people fighting the new law in the first place are asking the judge to quash the ad campaign too. they are looking...
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it doesn't just depend on the law itself. it depends on what people think the law is in pennsylvania. people are calling the state calling that toll free number to find out about voting and being told when they call that number to effectively not show up if they don't have an i.d. then honestly it doesn't matter what the judge ruled. people without i.d. will probably stay home. pennsylvania elections officials said this week they are pulling their multimillion dollar ad campaign targeted at educating voters about the photo i.d. requirements because of course there is no longer an i.d. requirement. but you know what? even before you get to taking down your ad campaign as you meander around with that task pennsylvania you might also want to consider this. the bureau of elections for cumberland county in pennsylvania as of today hopefully informing its visitors that, quote, all voters will be required to show photo i.d. at the polling place in the november, 2012, general election. actually voters will not be required to show pho
it doesn't just depend on the law itself. it depends on what people think the law is in pennsylvania. people are calling the state calling that toll free number to find out about voting and being told when they call that number to effectively not show up if they don't have an i.d. then honestly it doesn't matter what the judge ruled. people without i.d. will probably stay home. pennsylvania elections officials said this week they are pulling their multimillion dollar ad campaign targeted at...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania in taction and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vintcation for the people of pennsylvania. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting? >> well, we only need to look fe facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on african-americans and on latinos. that's why we're winning. we're fighting back and winning. >> bill clinton, who is very good at making things simple, as we know, he's done it again this summer, he said this
law in pennsylvania. tim burress, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine cowl tin-gonzalez. i know she doesn't outrank either of you but i want her to start because he's an expert. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in...
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romney was first to point out the reforms he signed into law in massachusetts was something he shied away from in the past. the president could come into office facing 23 million people out of work, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion fighting for obama care instead of jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state, craft a plan that fits the needs of the state, then let's focus on getting the costs down for people rather than raising it with the $2,500 additional premium. >> the irony is we have seen this model work really well, in massachusetts. because governor romney did a good thing, working with democrats in the state to set up what is essentially the identical model and people are covered there. it hasn't destroyed jobs and as a consequence, we now have a system in which we have the opportunity to bring down costs as opposed to leaving millions of people out in the cold. >> mr. romney was the most aggressive of the two and did not mind interrupting the moderator. >> jim, th
romney was first to point out the reforms he signed into law in massachusetts was something he shied away from in the past. the president could come into office facing 23 million people out of work, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spent his energy and passion fighting for obama care instead of jobs for the american people. it has killed jobs. the best course for health care is to do what we did in my state, craft a plan that fits the needs of the state, then let's focus on getting...
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the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want that you're going to have to have a certificate, birth certificate with a raised seal and three other forms of identification. well, that was a problem. so then the state said, okay, here is what we're going to do. we'll issue a new form of i.d. that's good only for voting, and they started to do that, but they said you could only get that if you couldn't qualify for the other forms. then they changed their mind on that. so what the judge finally said is, i think the state now has it about right, that it's easy to g
the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did the judge actually say about why he decided to rule this way? >> reporter: well, let's track what's happened here. the state first passed the law and said if you don't have a dlls, you need a government i.d. if you don't have the driver's license, then you could get the nondriver's state issued i.d. and then the state said, wait a minute, that's a secure form of i.d., so if you want...
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law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the same workers, mitt romney said he would honor their temporary visas and allow the workers to say in the u.s. if he becomes president. this of course, is that executive order that the president signed. mitt romney had not said whether he was going to keep that order in place or rescind it. he says now, you can keep it in place. >>> one border patrol agent has been killed in a shooting near the mexico/arizona border. we're following that story. we'll get you more updates as we get them. >>> in today's deep dive, president
law. if a judge decides the state has hasn't adequately assisted in getting the identification, he can block the law from being imposed. the judge could leave the law in effect but let voters cast a provisional ballot. >>> jerry brown signed new legislation to let immigrants get driver's license. it covers immigrants who came to the u.s. before they were 16 and meet criteria to apply for a federal work permit program. >>> speaking of those young folks, when asked about the...
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law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still looking for good polls. right now it's probably best to see the swing state polls that come out monday, tuesday, wednesday. at that point we'll have a good idea after people have digested the debate as well as these job number, but alex, i think you pointed to it very well. the obama campaign got a very big gift from the job number, just to be able to turn the subject from wednesday night's tough debate into something that was seen as a positive, that the unemployment rate went below 8% and just change the story. allows them to move on to thursday's debate between joe biden and paul ryan as well as the remain
law essentially will not be the law for 2012 pretty much eliminates a lot of democratic worries that that law could end up making the race closer than it currently appears in the polls. >> i want to know if you see a big difference in 24 hours, because with the debate fallout, may be blunted by the job numbers. people were talking about thursday morning, then friday morning, and getting an early indication of how the debate may have played out in the swing states? >> we're still...
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the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney supreme court would look like. here's what he said back in december during the primary debates. >> yes, roberts, thomas, alito, and scalia. >> those are four justices that are the most conservative on the bench. they all ruled against abortion rights, against equal pay, and for unlimited political donation for corporations. yes, this is not about who likes the president or not. sure he's likeable. this is not about all of the side bar issues. this is about what we fundamentally stand
the law that people marched and died for. the law that is now under attack by voter i.d. laws. the supreme court may decide whether key revisions should stand nearly five decades later. how do justices rule in these cases will affect millions of americans. who can go to college, who can get married, who can vote. that's why this election is so important. whoever is elected president next month will likely appoint at least just one new justice to the court and it's no mystery what a romney...
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>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that overstates the president's position. he's a very sophisticated analyst of that region. i'm filibustering here. but, then, if i were president obama i would say, look, the vice president and i agree that when we came to office, we were losing a war. we were losing it badly and losing it in a way that would have been catastrophic for the region and would have made americans less safe. so i increased the troop presence there, stabilized the situation, got to a point where we would be able to withdraw. >> was biden right? >> biden was one of our advisers. he had input on our decision and -- >> in the fight over whether the fight in afg
>> it's the law. >> we're trying to decide what the law is and as president you get to -- >> congress get the numbers right. >> let me ask you about a foreign policy. we're having a lot of problems in afghanistan. vice president biden had a plan to switch from a counter insurgency plan and go toll an anti terrorism strategy. that limits our casualties and focuses on al qaeda. why didn't you do that, mr. president? it would have saved a lot of lives. >> that...
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laws and the president wins a second term? let's ask msnbc policy analyst ezra klein of the "washington post." good afternoon, ezra. i'm glad you're here. it needs a man of your intellect to unravel this complex and comprehensive conspiracy. here is the one question we keep hearing today. take a listen to this, ezra. >> how do you drop a third in the overall number and only add about 100,000 jobs? >> how did we get a drop of one-third in the unemployment rate? >> well, we didn't get a drop of one-third. the unemployment rate went down 0.3 of 1%. that's how much we're talking about here. a lot of this is because we have this weird psychological fixation on this line at 8% and it went under that, but we've had a 0.2 drop earlier, we had a 0.4 of a percentage drop a year ago. this is not some incredibly weird aberration we need to explain. it's not even, frankly, that good of a number. 7.8% is not great. could go up to 7.9% or 8% next month. the idea we've had an incredibly wonderful labor report that we have to figure out a cons
laws and the president wins a second term? let's ask msnbc policy analyst ezra klein of the "washington post." good afternoon, ezra. i'm glad you're here. it needs a man of your intellect to unravel this complex and comprehensive conspiracy. here is the one question we keep hearing today. take a listen to this, ezra. >> how do you drop a third in the overall number and only add about 100,000 jobs? >> how did we get a drop of one-third in the unemployment rate? >>...
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i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there and doing the typical -- >> why does it seem like the right thing to do? >> well, it seems like the right thing to do for you, chris, but what is the fair share? what is the fair number that a warren buffett or a mitt romney or myself should pay? that's going to be at one end of the debate? but how do we get others in our economy who want to be taxpayers, who want to be taxpayers, those who lost their jobs under this administration, want to be back under the administration and pay their fair share, so let's get them the jobs to do that. >> i'm not sure that was a clear response. >> it was clear. it worked for me.
i've paid my fair share under the law. the law says that, you know, i can take these deductions. i didn't take all the deductions that i was entitled to because of -- >> how come your party voted down to the last woman and man against the buffett rule? against requiring, in principle, that ceos pay the same tax rate as their secretaries? >> because that's just politics. that's not getting to the nub of reforming the tax code. >> it isn't? >> that's just getting out there...
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both of them harvard, both of them harvard law review. i mean, it was amazing how they were like flip sides of the same coin. >> it is. they do a fascinating parallels. but the paradox of the difference is that john roberts when it comes to the constitution is the candidate of change. he's the one who wants to change the law on abortion, on civil rights, on the death penalty, on all of these areas whereas obama is much more of a cautious conservative when it comes to the course. he's the one saying, let's leave things the way they are. the law is okay the way it is. roberts is part of the generation of conservatives. ronald reagan brought them to washington who said, we have to change the law. >> i've been trying to tell everybody, i'm a conservative. i'm trying to conserve the voting rights act, conserve affirmative action. i'm the conservative. so glad jeffrey toobin came on the show to affirm that for me. >> that's my goal, rev. >> jeffrey toobin. the book is, the oath, the obama white house and the supreme court. you need to read it a
both of them harvard, both of them harvard law review. i mean, it was amazing how they were like flip sides of the same coin. >> it is. they do a fascinating parallels. but the paradox of the difference is that john roberts when it comes to the constitution is the candidate of change. he's the one who wants to change the law on abortion, on civil rights, on the death penalty, on all of these areas whereas obama is much more of a cautious conservative when it comes to the course. he's the...
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the florida department of law enforcement is going to look into it because this is voter fraud. this is voter registration fraud, and it actually also shows that we already have laws in place to prevent voter fraud and, in fact, the states going to go after them and that's good. >> give me a damage report on what would happen if these people got away with what they're doing. >> what would happen is really, you know, we know at the end of the day they would not be able to vote actually because, again, we have laws in place that would not permit them to vote. >> but they're showing up on registration lists and where they end up going. >> what would happen is actually this is a fact that, you know, technology allows for them to be knocked out, and that kind of fraud is not going to happen. but we have a problem with people trying to conjure up people that they want to vote republican, and important is this particular company had allegations before in 2004 about registering people and throwing away democratic registration forms. >> i want to get to you about the role of the rnc. nob
the florida department of law enforcement is going to look into it because this is voter fraud. this is voter registration fraud, and it actually also shows that we already have laws in place to prevent voter fraud and, in fact, the states going to go after them and that's good. >> give me a damage report on what would happen if these people got away with what they're doing. >> what would happen is really, you know, we know at the end of the day they would not be able to vote...
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and even if your local law enforcement authorities are okay with it. and even request your state's government says stuff like segregation now. you're part of the united states of america and far of our constitution you cannot operate racially discriminatory businesses. nobody thinks you can do this anymore, right? lives were lost and a lot of blood was shed to enforce that principle, but it is settled now, right? until the last couple of years. when kentucky republican rand paul won a seat in the united states senate in 2010. it was after a campaign in which he said the 1964 civil rights act made him uncomfortable. he wasn't sure that anybody should be able to tell a private business that, for example, you have to serve black people. >> would you have voted for the civil rights act of 1964? >> i like the civil rights act in the sense that it ended discrimination in all public domains and i'm all in favor of that. but -- you had to ask me the but. but i don't like the idea of telling private business owners. i ab who are racism. i think it's a bad idea
and even if your local law enforcement authorities are okay with it. and even request your state's government says stuff like segregation now. you're part of the united states of america and far of our constitution you cannot operate racially discriminatory businesses. nobody thinks you can do this anymore, right? lives were lost and a lot of blood was shed to enforce that principle, but it is settled now, right? until the last couple of years. when kentucky republican rand paul won a seat in...
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state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. >>> well, mitt romney is not backing off of his attacks of president obama's economic policies, no matter what the latest jobs report says. he told a florida crowd last night that the president is out of ideas and says wednesday's debate proved that. >> he got a chance to explain his jobs program. how he's going to cre
state law allows him to do that as well as running for the vice presidency, but what challenges does that present? >> it's just that it can look bad. but i would also point out that joe biden also was running for re-election for the senate in delaware when he was brarack obama's running mate four years ago. so this is a pretty commonplace thing to do. >> all right, matt visor from "the boston globe" and erin mcpike from real clear politics, thank you both. >> thank...
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law. he doesn't think that will be a problem, but he can't take the state's word that they are going to get all the problems fixed in time for the election. >> it's a big development with 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. later we'll get reaction to this decision from former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and mayor michael nutter. >>> who will bring the dynamite to denver? a little over the a day for the presidential debate. both president obama and mitt romney getting ready for their first face-off tomorrow night in colorado. doing the hefty lifting on the number two on the ticket and the candidates' wives. mitt romney is in denver where last night he tried to put the kibosh on predebate winning. >> people want to know who is going to win, who will make the biggest difference and scoring of winning and losing. in my view it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself, it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity f
law. he doesn't think that will be a problem, but he can't take the state's word that they are going to get all the problems fixed in time for the election. >> it's a big development with 20 electoral votes in pennsylvania. later we'll get reaction to this decision from former pennsylvania governor ed rendell and mayor michael nutter. >>> who will bring the dynamite to denver? a little over the a day for the presidential debate. both president obama and mitt romney getting ready...
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that is not the law at all in pennsylvania. you don't have to have a driver's license or any other id in pennsylvania. but when you call the state's number to figure out how to vote. that is what you get. as of today. so, naturally when we got that recording one of our producers called back and asked why. why the confusing website. >> okay. but your out going message is actually like sending not just a mixed message but an in core ect message to the voters right now. >> can you change that do you think? >> yes. for something like that. it is important to call us and contact us like you are doing right now.
that is not the law at all in pennsylvania. you don't have to have a driver's license or any other id in pennsylvania. but when you call the state's number to figure out how to vote. that is what you get. as of today. so, naturally when we got that recording one of our producers called back and asked why. why the confusing website. >> okay. but your out going message is actually like sending not just a mixed message but an in core ect message to the voters right now. >> can you...
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it's a struggle for the dignity that comes with freedom and opportunity and the right to live under laws of our own making. it's a struggle that's been unfolded under green banners in the streets of iran, in the public squares of tunisia and egypt and yemen and in the fights for liberty in iraq and afghanistan and libya. and now in syria. in short, it's a struggle between liberty and tyranny, justice and oppression, hope and despa despair. we've seen this struggle before. it is familiar to general george marshall. in his time, actions of world war was torn between democracy and despotism. we had leaders of courage and vision, both republicans and democrats, who knew that america had to support friends who shared our values and prevent today's crisis of tomorrow's conflicts. statesmen like marshall rallied the nation to rise to the responsibilities as the leader of the free world. we helped our friends to build and sustain free societies and free markets. we defended the friends and ourselves from our common enemies. we led. we led and though the path was long and uncertain, the thought o
it's a struggle for the dignity that comes with freedom and opportunity and the right to live under laws of our own making. it's a struggle that's been unfolded under green banners in the streets of iran, in the public squares of tunisia and egypt and yemen and in the fights for liberty in iraq and afghanistan and libya. and now in syria. in short, it's a struggle between liberty and tyranny, justice and oppression, hope and despa despair. we've seen this struggle before. it is familiar to...
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law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce the voter i.d. requirement in this year's election, but it will go into full effect next year. opponents of the law say it would hurt voter turnover, especially among minorities and the leeld he who are likely to vote for democrats in that state. it was in june that a top state republican lawmaker predicted the law would help governor romney. >> which is going to allow governor romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> and joining us now, judith brown, diana's co-director of the advancement project, a civil rights organization that filed the lawsuit. thank you for your time. we played that state lawmaker who said if that law was in effect in pennsylvania, he felt that governor romney would win that state, done. the polling shows opposite. nevertheless there was a concern. let's talk about the split decision. the judge is blocking it for now, but what happens next? >> well, you know, this is a big victory for democracy. it paves the
law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce the voter i.d. requirement in this year's election, but it will go into full effect next year. opponents of the law say it would hurt voter turnover, especially among minorities and the leeld he who are likely to vote for democrats in that state. it was in june that a top state republican lawmaker predicted the law would help governor romney. >> which is...
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it's law that just makes sense. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks ] >>> we will take them out. we will crush al qaeda. >> then he says he want to unilaterally go in and potentially bomb a nation which is our friend. >> this is the person of the united states saying they are going to go into their country uni latterly. >>> mitt romney told the associated press, quote, it's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person. his weakness on foreign policy has just gotten worse. today, for example, romney gave a speech trying to sell himself as incredible
it's law that just makes sense. boring. boring. [ jack ] after lauren broke up with me, i went to the citi private pass page and decided to be...not boring. that's how i met marilyn... giada... really good. yes! [ jack ] ...and alicia. ♪ this girl is on fire [ male announcer ] use any citi card to get the benefits of private pass. more concerts, more events, more experiences. [ jack ] hey, who's boring now? [ male announcer ] get more access with the citi card. [ crowd cheering, mouse clicks...
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law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you gentlemen, but i want her to start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're pleased with it. the fight is still on. we've got to defeat this in the future in other states, but we've been fighting and winning in pennsylvania, in texas, and wisconsin against these restrictive photo i.d. laws. it's a great vindication for the people of pennsylvania. who would have been disenfranchised by it. >> what's the purpose? is it ethnic, partisan? who are they targeting to keep from voting? >> well, we only need to look at the facts. there's a disparate impact on the elderly, on students, on young people, and on af
law in pennsylvania. tim burns, the pennsylvania democratic party chair, and katherine culliton-gonzalez. director of the voter protection program at advancement project. i just want -- i know she doesn't outrank either of you gentlemen, but i want her to start because she's an expert at this. how important is this for the people who were trying to push this through and how important was it to defeat it in pennsylvania for this election? >> this is huge. it's a great victory. we're...
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and president obama did a little bit of that but in this very disengaged law/professor-type of approach. some people think it is harder for the president to be nasty, be tough because then he comes across as an angry black man who is going to scare people. i don't know, but for whatever reason it -- he just did not push back. he did not engage. >> i think also the lack of audience noise was an issue and the way the debate was staged. it added to this lack of energy. remember, this is a year when most people watching debates on television or getting their news are used to the kind of roar of the crowd. they used to tweet, they are used to crowd engagement. to have two people quiet ligating on the stage in a professorial way is quite alien for most american people today. >> there's that same perception that it is reality, even liberal pundits were critical of the president. a lot of the post and headlines today will say mitt romney won this debate. they are both going out on the road today, they are back in campaign mode, there's another vice presidential debate before they go head-to-hea
and president obama did a little bit of that but in this very disengaged law/professor-type of approach. some people think it is harder for the president to be nasty, be tough because then he comes across as an angry black man who is going to scare people. i don't know, but for whatever reason it -- he just did not push back. he did not engage. >> i think also the lack of audience noise was an issue and the way the debate was staged. it added to this lack of energy. remember, this is a...
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covering those with preexisting conditions is not the same as obama's it's already what's mandated by law, which is again reassuring the rest of the conservative base, the guys we still got you. >> you make the right point. i cannot imagine that mitt romney -- mitt romney is going to get up in front of the big crowds of conservative base supporters and say remember the debate, how great i did, i guarantee he won't repeat a policy idea from that debate in front of those crowds. they are not going to cheer for the newly moderate mitt positions. he can be eraser man all he wants and scrub away -- >> if he moves up in the polls i think they will cheer. >> i think they care -- if it gets him percentage points in the polls i think he will. >> there are debates coming up. he can't skate by on talking points in front of rallies of his own supporters, he's going to get pressed on this stomach presumablybly in the next tw debates and will have to enunciate some details of what he does embrace in terms of obama care. >> compassion or conservative won two elections in this country, severely conservat
covering those with preexisting conditions is not the same as obama's it's already what's mandated by law, which is again reassuring the rest of the conservative base, the guys we still got you. >> you make the right point. i cannot imagine that mitt romney -- mitt romney is going to get up in front of the big crowds of conservative base supporters and say remember the debate, how great i did, i guarantee he won't repeat a policy idea from that debate in front of those crowds. they are...
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we had the huggate incident, where the president shockingly hugged a professor at his law school at the time that he was there. we had him saying the apparently horrific dirty word, redistribution and we also have now, interestingly, 1 million copies of this anti-obama conspiracy theory documentary, "dreams from obama's real father" that have been sent out around ohio. and i think, frankly, that there is a significant chunk of the right-wing that is living in an alternate universe in which if the truth about the president really got out and if the mainstream media would just focus on the questions around his place of birth and his secret ideology, there's no way he could be reelected president. you know, i think this actual alternate universe has been challenge for the romney campaign to navigate and impacted their ability to message effectively and focus on snag is going to be appealing to the base but makes sense to a broader elector rat. i would point to their "you didn't build that" narrative. they grabbed part of the president's comments, used it in stumps speeches, used it in ads,
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i asked jonathan gruber the mit who helped design the law. he told me 100%. that was my whole job, saying whether we could fit what he wanted to do within those three funding sources. the legislature ended up adding more money to the law after he proposed it. but the fact remains it remains on federal dollars and on state taxes. but romney's health care proposal doesn't make it easier for other states to do what he did. it makes it almost impossible. he's not offering states access to federal funds for universal coverage. here's what he's doing. >> i would like to take the medicaid dallas dollars and go to state and say you'll get what you got last year, plus inflation, plus 1% and you manage your care for your poor in the way you think best. >> that sounds nice. it's a cut to medicaid of more than $600 billion. that means medicaid will not be able to offer other states the generous deal massachusetts got. so then let's go through these three pots of money. romney isn't giving states a pot of money, he's cutting medicaid funding so unlike massachusetts, state
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more recently allegations relating to an electoral scheme in arizona to allegedly violate election laws by running an independent expenditure campaign on behalf of an attorney general candidate there. i should point out that there have been no charges filed against mr. sproul or any of his companies, but they were concerned enough so that when sproul got hired in just this past june, he acknowledges that he set up a separate company under this name, strategic allied consulting, so that it wouldn't trace back to the other names that he's operated under, lincoln strategy group is the main one, and so it was clear that they were concerned, both he and the rnc, and he says, sproul told me that he did this at the request of the rnc. so there was clearly concern on both parties' part that some of these past controversies would get some attention if it was known that he was conducting this very major nationwide battleground registration effort on behalf of the rnc. >> because the rnc spends something like $3 million, they were operating in seven swing states. how wide do you expect this invest
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. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to dealing with the economic issues, absolutely. but we're two different people. >> you would be a reliable ally when it came to his economic plan? on his economic plan, you said there's nobody better. >> i would also like to read the bills. a lot of people don't read the bills down there. >> meanwhile, a new set of polls show this race is close. polling from mass i think has it close. 18% of massachusetts voters are still undecided. and that means senator brown's seat is still up for grabs. for more on this tonight, let's turn to felix arroyo. you were at the first debate and of course, at this one again tonight. watched thi
. >> i never used it for college, for law school, or to get a job. >> senator scott brown on defense trying to back up his manufactured native american controversy. brown and democratic opponent elizabeth warren just finished their second debate for brown's senate seat. it was front and center in the debate. but brown also had a tough time standing by mitt romney's economic plan. >> you support governor romney for president, i assume. >> as i said, when it comes to...
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now that he's voted to uphold this law, would you still knowing what we know now, nominate a justice like john roberts? >> well, i certainly wouldn't nominate someone who i knew was going to come out with a decision that i rehemently disagreed with. >> joining me now is jeffrey toobin. voting for the united states senator is the number one reason to vote for them since they confirm these nominations. i just want to show you a moment that just occurred in the massachusetts senate debate tonight between scott brown and elizabeth warren. let's listen to that. >> who's your model supreme court justice? >> let me see here. that's a great question. i think justice scalia is a very good judge. justice kennedy. the i think they're very qualified people there. >> >> miss warren who would be your model supreme court justice. >> i think it would probably be elena kagan. >> jeff toobin, it seemed elizabeth warren got that right the first time. we saw scott brown move from left to right. >> it looked like he was sort of randomly picking names out of the sky. the justices who had absolutely nothin
now that he's voted to uphold this law, would you still knowing what we know now, nominate a justice like john roberts? >> well, i certainly wouldn't nominate someone who i knew was going to come out with a decision that i rehemently disagreed with. >> joining me now is jeffrey toobin. voting for the united states senator is the number one reason to vote for them since they confirm these nominations. i just want to show you a moment that just occurred in the massachusetts senate...
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romney described the dodd frank reform law as the biggest kiss to new york banks i have ever seen. you have worked with some of those banks. so was it? or is that the biggest lie mr. romney told last night? >> as george kos stanza says, it's not a lie if you believe it. it's one of the most cynical comments we heard last night because i don't think i have ever heard mitt romney actually defend regulation. he actually said i'm going to scrap dodd/frank and put in place new regulations, presumably tougher regulations. if this is a kiss, he wants tougher regulations. let's stipulate for a moment that most of wall street is already in mitt romney's pocket, already going to vote for him, that's what i hear. i don't know many people on wall street who aren't already supporters of him. now he throws that hail mary pass at the last minute and says now i'm going to be critical of dodd/frank and critical of the regulation and ask for more regulation and also was going to cut everybody's taxes 20%. now i'm saying, no, no, no we're not doing that anymore. we're going to raise people's taxes. h
romney described the dodd frank reform law as the biggest kiss to new york banks i have ever seen. you have worked with some of those banks. so was it? or is that the biggest lie mr. romney told last night? >> as george kos stanza says, it's not a lie if you believe it. it's one of the most cynical comments we heard last night because i don't think i have ever heard mitt romney actually defend regulation. he actually said i'm going to scrap dodd/frank and put in place new regulations,...